15 And he instructed them, saying: "Consider and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the leaven of Herod."
16 And they discussed this with one another, saying, "For we have no bread."
17 And Jesus, knowing this, said to them: "Why do you consider that it is because you have no bread? Do you not yet know or understand? Do you still have blindness in your heart?
18 Having eyes, do you not see? And having ears, do you not hear? Do you not remember,
19 when I broke the five loves among the five thousand, how many baskets full of fragments you took up?" They said to him, "Twelve."
20 "And when the seven loaves were among the four thousand, how many baskets of fragments did you take up?" And they said to him, "Seven."
21 And he said to them, "How is it that you do not yet understand?"