7 I answered, "What separates the times? When is the end of the first and the beginning of that which follows?"
8 He said to me: "From Abraham to Abraham, because Jacob and Esau were born from him, but Jacob’s hand held Esau’s heel from the outset.
9 Esau represents the end of this age, and Jacob represents the beginning of the following.
10 The beginning of the one man is his hand, and the end of the other man is his heel. Don’t look for anything else between heel and hand, Ezra."
11 I answered: "Supreme Lord, if only you looked so favorably upon me
12 that you would show your servant your final signs, which you showed me in part on a previous night."
13 He answered: "Get up on your feet. You’ll hear a loud, echoing voice.