4 Then I asked the angel, “What do these things stand for, sir?”
5 “Don't you know?” he asked me.“No, I don't, sir,” I replied.
10b The angel said to me, “The seven lamps are the seven eyes of the Lord, which see all over the earth.”
11 Then I asked him, “What do the two olive trees on either side of the lampstand mean?
12 And what is the meaning of the two olive branches beside the two gold pipes from which the olive oil pours?”
13 He asked me, “Don't you know?”“No, I don't, sir,” I answered.
14 Then he said, “These are the two men whom God has chosen and anointed to serve him, the Lord of the whole earth.”