7 “Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You have to be born from above.’
8 “The Spirit breathes where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who has been born of the Spirit.”
9 Naḵdimon answered and said to Him, “How is it possible for this to take place?”
10 יהושע answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Yisra’ĕl, and do not know this?
11 “Truly, truly, I say to you, We speak what We know and witness what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness.
12 “If you do not believe when I spoke to you about earthly matters, how are you going to believe when I speak to you about the heavenly matters?
13 “And no one has gone up into the heaven except He who came down from the heaven – the Son of Aḏam.