9 Naḵdimon answered and said to Him, “How is it possible for this to take place?”
10 יהושע answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Yisra’ĕl, and do not know this?
11 “Truly, truly, I say to you, We speak what We know and witness what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness.
12 “If you do not believe when I spoke to you about earthly matters, how are you going to believe when I speak to you about the heavenly matters?
13 “And no one has gone up into the heaven except He who came down from the heaven – the Son of Aḏam.
14 “And as Mosheh lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so the Son of Aḏam has to be lifted up,
15 so that whoever is believing in Him should not perish but possess everlasting life.